How helpful can we really be for others if we’re not even willing to help ourselves?
My guest today is Lisa Maaca Bartlette. Lisa is the founder of three social service enterprises in the past two decades to empathically support traumatized and vulnerable populations. She is a child welfare and trauma expert with degrees in theology, business management / entrepreneurship, and social work.
In this episode, we’ll learn about:
- Lisa’s call to social work
- Finding her purpose
- Healing ourselves before we can help heal others
- The Johari Window
- And much more!
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In This Episode:
[1:28] – We’re introduced to Lisa Maaca and learn more about her story.
[3:09] – Lisa explains how our lives call us to our work if we’re listening.
[4:44] – This is how Lisa navigated the call to social work.
[6:42] – We hear about Lisa’s first pitch for Sweet Abandon.
[8:20] – Still not finding her place with a Bachelor’s Degree in Business, Lisa talks about her move to graduate school.
[10:45] – Lisa ended up doing policy and research, but even though she enjoyed it, the job didn’t pay well for her needs.
[12:15] – We learn how Lisa found her calling.
[13:05] – What is the first step in healing ourselves? Lisa shares her thoughts.
[13:30] – The Johari Window, as described by Lisa.
[16:15] – Lisa explains how people are not problems to fix, they are instead beings to understand.
[19:00] – The origins of Whine On The Vine.
[21:11] – How does Lisa deal with the first step of “I don’t want to feel it”?
[25:40] – This is Lisa’s favorite social work value that took her the longest time to wrap her mind around.
[27:00] – Until the pain to remain the same is greater than the pain to change, we won’t change.
[28:50] – Tiffany wraps up the conversation.